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Around The Table: The Twilight Saga Part 2

We love to get together as a team and discuss all manner of book related subjects. As with the movie adaptation of Breaking Dawn, to do justice to this discussion we have had to divide this feature in to two parts! Warning: Caroline and Helen go off on one!

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Caroline: What do people think of the character portrayal in the films?! I know that you can’t portray everything in a two hour film but I felt like they left out all of Bella’s other friendships. In the books she at least makes an effort to create and maintain friendships outside of Edward and Jacob.

Helen: I liked the third film, as the one I saw first, but agree that Bella is more limited by the film. I liked Edward better in the films though hmmmm Wonder why! 😉 He seems a bit less perfect somehow, or maybe it’s just that you see him as he is and not just him through Bella’s eyes which is what the books are.

Caroline: *fans self* Yes I think you are right, his flaws are more obvious in the films.

Helen: Shame she never finished that book written from his perspective.

Caroline: It was great that both the wolves and the vampires had big extended supportive families, something that is becoming rarer in our society. I loved all of the secondary Characters. Seth was a sweetheart (and what a fantastic name!) and Emmett brought light relief.

Helen: The other minor character I really liked was the girlfriend of chief wolf. The one, who got hurt, can’t remember her name, but she was interesting too. Was it this book where Jacob has to face down the pack? I found all that really interesting too, especially reading in fairly close proximity to the Shiver series

Caroline: I thought that Leah was a really interesting character and I would really like to read more about her in the future.

Helen: I liked Leah too; her whole story would be a good film I think (if a little short maybe!). I liked all the stuff with the wolves and the legends, it gave it all more depth.

Caroline: I was thinking a book about what happens to Leah post Twilight? How does she cope being the only female? Does she ever mend her broken heart? It felt like she was the only “good guy” who didn’t get a happy ending and she was made out to be such a b!&$h I want Stephenie to write her story so that she gets to her to have a happy ending!

Helen: Good idea, and more Twilight then too.

Caroline: On the Leah issue, why do you suppose we are allowed to wallow with Bella when Edward left but made to feel unsympathetic for Leah when Sam left her for her cousin?

Helen: Partly because Bella is the main character!!Also Leah does take it out on everyone else, Bella mostly seems to go into herself and not be so negative to others – they just get ignored!!And when we first meet Leah she isn’t really seen in a positive light, this carries on as the boys/wolves don’t know how to cope with her. She needs another girl wolf to empathize with about everything

Caroline: Do you think it’s because Bella and Edward were “true love 4eva” but the fact Sam left Leah meant that it couldn’t been as strong a love? Despite the fact that “imprinting” seems to merely be some kind of weird natural selection gig!

Helen: Hadn’t thought about the true love side, seems a bit hard on Leah though. All the stuff with Jacob and Renesme made imprinting seem like a bit of a plot device to get him over Bella and bring about that oh so convenient happy ending! Leah was a handy way to show imprinting over riding love before Jacob did it with Bella.

Caroline: Poor Leah all that heartache and angst just to be used and abused as a plot device.

Helen: Leah definitely needs a book; we should write to SM and tell her 🙂
Caroline: Absolutely! TEAM LEAH
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Around The Table: The Twilight Saga

We love to get together as a team and discuss all manner of book related subjects. On the 3rd Sunday of the month we take a transcript of one of these discussions or copy and paste a Facebook thread (which has been corrected for spelling and typos) and post it on our site. We welcome your contributions and comments related to the featured discussion.
Warning this post contains spoilers.

Jane: Most of us have all read and enjoyed The Twilight Saga by Stephanie Meyers and with Breaking Dawn: Part One, about to hit the Big Screen, a discussion about these cult books seemed extremely timely and justified! I think it goes without saying that this series provided extremely enjoyable reading and the love triangle between Bella, Jacob and the mysterious Edward kept us all enthralled till the very end. As far as vampire stories go, this one was certainly different and fairly action packed, with some interesting characters and plot lines along the way.

Karen: Twilight will always have a special place in my heart and the series took me completely by surprise.
Caroline: The Twilight Saga was important for me because it opened up my reading habit. Without it I probably would have gone on discovered Maggie Stiefvater’s or Cassandra Clare’s work, read The Hunger Games and generally got the YA bug.

Helen: Aah Twilight, yes I really enjoyed them, vampires without the gore, it was great!

Jane: What characters did everyone like (or not!) and were there any that you changed your mind about as the story progressed? Did everyone enjoy all of the books, or was there a particular one you favored more than another? And of course, no discussion would be complete without finding out what we really thought of Bella and the choices she made – Jacob or Edward and whether she should have become a vampire or not? …

Karen: When Jacob started to ‘evolve’ for want of a better word, I really went off him. It was to the point that in Breaking Dawn I would curse in disappointment when I came across ‘his’ chapters.

Helen: I was on the team Jacob, finding Edward irritatingly perfect (apart from being a vamp of course!) and I was annoyed at Jacob’s story development too Karen, but mostly because I found the way Stephanie tied all those ends together just a little too convenient and I felt she changed Jacob a bit to do this.

Caroline: I have to say that I found Jacob so irritating the first time I read Breaking Dawn. On the second reading (yes I admit it I’ve read them all twice…and listened to the audio books), once I knew how everything turned out I was able to tolerate him more. I have to say though, despite the explanations and examples of imprinting in the earlier books I still find the whole imprinting to the baby CREEPY!

Helen: Totally agree it was creepy; he should have stuck to liking Bella and had a bit of heartache when she got married! Maybe that was a little too realistic! In my opinion it’s all a bit convenient that they can all be immortal together forever and perfectly happy too!

Karen: I was not expecting Bella to become vampire. It kind of goes against the grain doesn’t it! I thought that Edward would somehow become human.

Helen: I began to think Bella would have to be ‘changed ‘from quite early on, I just couldn’t figure out how this might happen without making perfect Edward into a bad guy! When Bella does change I felt she dealt with it all too well and was far too in control. However these gripes don’t mean I didn’t enjoy all the books. The twist on the usual vampires (being ‘vegetarian’) was interesting, and all the stories and connections with the Native Americans and the Wolves, were intriguing. I do like a good bit of teenage angst as well, and although I never really felt that Bella was interested in Jacob (that was the film angle not the book) I did like their relationship.

Karen: It’s been awhile but one thing that still bugs me is that you have a girl who is willing to give up her human life, never see her family etc to become a vampire yet would be so hesitant with agreeing to marry Edward?!

Caroline: I agree, Karen. I would have married him like that *clicks fingers* sod how it looked to everyone else! Going back to what you were saying about the ending…It was all just a little perfect. At the time as a fan I was really please with how it turned out. I’m a sucker for a happy ending and it tied everything up, oh so neatly with no possibility for more installments and their futures mapped out. But having read a lot more YA and looking at it from the perspective as an adult reader the ending is starting to bug me

Helen: Going back to the films, they made it out to be much more of a love triangle between Bella, Edward and Jacob. I always felt that it was obvious in the books who would end up with Bella. Jacob didn’t stand a chance.

Caroline: Just a little bias then!

Helen: He just seemed so much nicer and friendlier and all that, maybe I’m not into brooding vampires!

Caroline: I think the idea of immortality is an interesting one, who would really want to live forever? What would you do with yourself? Would you really value life? Sorry feeling philosophical over my cornflakes!

Helen: I agree with you about the whole immortality thing, forever is a long time, and there must be a limit to how long you want to keep going to high school too.

Caroline: OMG being surrounded by all than angst and drama for eternity!

Helen: Yep, there is only so much teen drama you can take when you are 3009 years old!!!

To Be Continued…

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